tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post3831091352330689841..comments2024-03-06T06:34:42.881-05:00Comments on EconoSpeak: An Epidemic of AdministratorsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post-33026646451565483412008-03-15T10:15:00.000-04:002008-03-15T10:15:00.000-04:00I think some commenters may be missing the point. ...I think some commenters may be missing the point. Of course the institution needs a hefty administrative staff to run it, given its mandates and structure. That's the nature of these kinds of bureaucracies.<BR/><BR/>The issue is whether or not the institution itself is an efficient means to the core missionof education. If it incurs so much overhead, if it inevitably leads to growth for its own sake, maybe its not well suited to genuine education. At its ever growing price, it certainly isn't a good deal.<BR/><BR/>Read Ivan Illich and John Taylor Gatto. The former argues that institutions feed on their own inability to achieve any goals save their own perpetuation (administrative growth is the health of the non-productive institution). The latter makes the case that public education is the largest jobs project in history.Jeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08046932749797197182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post-1780145460377455922008-03-13T17:21:00.000-04:002008-03-13T17:21:00.000-04:00Barkley, this is not all staff, but Professional S...Barkley, this is not all staff, but Professional Staff.Michael Perelmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04585032554768072298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post-51692109333847161082008-03-13T16:50:00.000-04:002008-03-13T16:50:00.000-04:00It must be remembered that colleges are being requ...It must be remembered that colleges are being required to take on tasks that are not traditional. How many now have drug counselling centers or employment placement advisers? How many have to help with applying for student aid?<BR/><BR/>Then there are services that students demand from more lavish accommodations (with management need for this) to improved sports and recreation facilities and improved computing and networking facilities.<BR/><BR/>Is the person who keeps the campus network going an "administrator"? I'll be his title has administrator in it somewhere.<BR/><BR/>Don't ignore all the staff needed to solicit contributions to the school and administer the endowment. If there is a research component than grants need to be administered as does licensing of any intellectual property which is generated.<BR/><BR/>It seems that teaching is just a byproduct in the modern mega-university. They have become big industrial firms just like in the industrial sector.<BR/><BR/>It would be interesting to see the figures broken down by type of institution. Do small liberal arts schools fare better?Robert D Feinmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11811511835460945217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post-12977106512324742502008-03-13T15:40:00.000-04:002008-03-13T15:40:00.000-04:00michael,Maybe not in the California system, but he...michael,<BR/><BR/>Maybe not in the California system, but here in Virginia, at least at James Madison U., the division is staff versus faculty, and the former includes secretaries and related types. Of course, there is certainly a proliferation of less useful types, assistant deans, and so forth, directors of meaningless programs, and so forth.rosserjb@jmu.eduhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09300046915843554101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post-72488825044946234382008-03-13T15:23:00.000-04:002008-03-13T15:23:00.000-04:00Barkley, secretaries are not classified as profess...Barkley, secretaries are not classified as professional staff.Michael Perelmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04585032554768072298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post-87513370055206534372008-03-13T13:40:00.000-04:002008-03-13T13:40:00.000-04:00To paraphrase GB Shaw: those who can't teach, admi...To paraphrase GB Shaw: those who can't teach, administrate.Sandwichmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11159060882083015637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post-84704970362605831082008-03-13T12:47:00.000-04:002008-03-13T12:47:00.000-04:00I agree that this is a bad trend, and I have certa...I agree that this is a bad trend, and I have certainly seen it at my institution. However, it should be kept in mind that a non-trivial portion of those people are probably secretarial staff and such like, not actual "administrators." <BR/><BR/>The real kicker in there is the increase in the share of faculty who are part-timers.<BR/><BR/>Barkleyrosserjb@jmu.eduhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09300046915843554101noreply@blogger.com