tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post4926326320372160220..comments2024-03-06T06:34:42.881-05:00Comments on EconoSpeak: Iran and Iraq: Bush Administration Stupid, Deluded, or Lying?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post-72411385618664826042008-05-05T10:15:00.000-04:002008-05-05T10:15:00.000-04:00Bill Moyers' interview over the weekend on PBS of ...Bill Moyers' interview over the weekend on PBS of Christopher Cerf and Victor Navasky, authors of "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" (published this past March), was a hoot; they came up with the College of Expertology that helps explain how Bush explained his foreign policy. Satire isn't dead.Shag from Brooklinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07312591102812315460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post-25423933827956844562008-05-02T21:13:00.000-04:002008-05-02T21:13:00.000-04:00Good to be bahhhk, Bahhhrk :}}Good to be bahhhk, Bahhhrk :}}Myrtle Blackwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07427043367624101075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post-31097207807916804082008-05-02T12:22:00.000-04:002008-05-02T12:22:00.000-04:00Brenda,(And good to have you back). Wrong? So wh...Brenda,<BR/><BR/>(And good to have you back). Wrong? So which of the three has the Bush administration not exhibited in this particular fiasco: stupidity, delusion, or lying?<BR/><BR/>(I am not ruling out some of the first two on the part of large parts of the US public who buy into large parts of this nonsense.)<BR/><BR/>Bahhkleyrosserjb@jmu.eduhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09300046915843554101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post-44587727016664270882008-05-02T09:25:00.000-04:002008-05-02T09:25:00.000-04:00"In fact I do think it is d) [all of the above].Wr..."In fact I do think it is d) [all of the above].<BR/><BR/>Wrong, Barkley. Ask Gore Vidal. I have just this minute finished watching him being interviewed on the Australian Broadcasting Commission's 'Lateline' show. <BR/><BR/>Gore says throw in the dimwit American public as well.<BR/><BR/>He is so truthful he's incredibly funny!Myrtle Blackwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07427043367624101075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post-34240554901966642222008-05-01T15:10:00.000-04:002008-05-01T15:10:00.000-04:00Well, the neocons are clearly justu plain out liar...Well, the neocons are clearly justu plain out liars and propagandists, and you are right that they continue to have a very strong voice in the MSM.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, Wolfie is back, now as overseer of Arms Control at State, which puts him in a position to spread propaganda about Iran and its nonexistent nuclear weapons program, although he is not as powerful as he was as DOD DepSec. There are some who never left, such as Elliott Abrams, although they tend to be lower tier.<BR/><BR/>The really nasty liars still in place are Cheney and his COS, Addington, who is a real viper or adder, or something, total scum, down there with the now (fortunately) absent John Yoo. Of course, it is not quite clear if Cheney counts as a neocon or something else, but he is clearly a lying war hawk of the worst sort.<BR/><BR/>Barkleyrosserjb@jmu.eduhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09300046915843554101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post-85894136798956418302008-05-01T14:02:00.000-04:002008-05-01T14:02:00.000-04:00Barkley if you examine the signatories you see tha...Barkley if you examine the signatories you see that not all of them were included in official government positions. Any number of them including the Kagans the Podhoretz's and Bill Kristol were left to push the message from the outside, much as Bolton is now.<BR/><BR/>As I happy that Wolfowitz, Bolton and Feith are not formally at the table? Well yeah, but it is not like they have gone away, you can rarely pick up a newspaper that is not quoting one or the other. If Feith had retreated to his rustic cabin for a prolonged period of introspection it would be one thing, instead TFSGOTFOTP Doug wrote himself a book exculpating him and the rest of the PNAC boys and urging action against Iraq.<BR/><BR/>The warmongers haven't gone away, they have just changed desk assignments.Bruce Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13222670342780912788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post-22223819873546246622008-05-01T11:24:00.000-04:002008-05-01T11:24:00.000-04:00Bruce,That gives c) as an answer. Clearly there a...Bruce,<BR/><BR/>That gives c) as an answer. Clearly there are some elements in the admin. who are part of what you cite, although a number of those folks have since disappeared or been downgraded.<BR/><BR/>jp,<BR/><BR/>Glad you did.<BR/><BR/>jack,<BR/><BR/>Yeah, I almost included your d) as an answer. As jp can tell you, I always put either an "All of the above" or a "None of the above" as an answer on my multiple choice exams, much to the annoyance of most students, more frequently the second. But that would clearly not be a correct answer. In fact I do think it is d), although this may be a matter of some of them doing one of these while others are doing others. The administration is not a monolith.<BR/><BR/>Barkleyrosserjb@jmu.eduhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09300046915843554101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post-15327985248953519042008-05-01T09:57:00.000-04:002008-05-01T09:57:00.000-04:00Barkley,Let me suggest a slight revision to your q...Barkley,<BR/>Let me suggest a slight revision to your question, more along the line of a multiple choice:<BR/>Bush administration is;<BR/>A) stupid, B) deluded,<BR/>C) lying, D) all of the above.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13149560477248068993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post-88690763746513586302008-05-01T01:58:00.000-04:002008-05-01T01:58:00.000-04:00Dr. Rosser,Glad to have finally found your blog af...Dr. Rosser,<BR/><BR/>Glad to have finally found your blog after searching for awhile.<BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/>Jonathan (former student)Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15925668956429842452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post-45250961619220175212008-04-30T21:25:00.000-04:002008-04-30T21:25:00.000-04:00Barkley correlate the signatories to the PNAC Stat...Barkley correlate the signatories to the PNAC Statement of Principles with those of their 1997 Letter to President Clinton urging violent regime change in Iraq and all of this is out in the open. They might as well put up billboards advertising 'We'll take out Saddam, and then the Ayatollahs in Iran, and then that rat bastard Assad in Syria and then both Hezbollah and Hamas!!'<BR/><BR/>Well yeah we get it and it some cases don't disagree that it wouldn't be a horrible result but neither would me hitting MegaMillions. Hope is not a plan.Bruce Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13222670342780912788noreply@blogger.com