tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post5594129921324243089..comments2024-03-06T06:34:42.881-05:00Comments on EconoSpeak: Robert J. Gordon is a BuffoonUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post-998351476494446892009-12-24T09:29:15.894-05:002009-12-24T09:29:15.894-05:00p.s. that may have seemed critical, but i read ton...p.s. that may have seemed critical, but i read tony judt in NYR who said we need to open the discourse up, share the memes (wealth). (i guess anyone, even me, can blog. but then we have to count web 'hits. ) as someone into 'music' i know the problem---in that i can play possibly almost the exact same notes/chords for even 4 hours in a row, and think maybe its not enough enough of beating that dead horse, though others argue differently.<br /><br />as an aside i'll link on my blog to the dissident view (not represented in the Economist---they never advertizes sandwiches there, it seems) of major discoveries in physics not posted on the arxiv of a major discovery.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post-23859891664016650932009-12-24T09:19:24.746-05:002009-12-24T09:19:24.746-05:00i guess i'd say, without really reading any of...i guess i'd say, without really reading any of this (though didnt gordon write about the IT role in productivity, or maybe it was someone else) i guess maybe this post proves his point.<br /><br />how many times has the 'lump of labor fallacy' been mentioned here? its an entire career, spacilty, and industry, so if one were to fire the people involved in it, or share their hours with others doing possibly a variety of things, then presumably something will collapse. (ill leave the details to the experts.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post-1198557993967371482009-12-23T13:36:30.427-05:002009-12-23T13:36:30.427-05:00Hmmmm. Well, my Compact edition of the OED gives ...Hmmmm. Well, my Compact edition of the OED gives as meanings for that last term: "knave, rascal, dastard, coward, sluggard, lazie-backe, base idle fellow."<br /><br />It occurs to me that possibly up to three of these might apply to folks who work less than a full week of work on a regular basis by choice.rosserjb@jmu.eduhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09300046915843554101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post-12491852612780210862009-12-22T22:07:15.144-05:002009-12-22T22:07:15.144-05:00Walker,
I don't believe that Gordon ever used...Walker,<br /><br />I don't believe that Gordon ever used the "name" you appear to claim that he called others. That he may have mistakenly labeled defenders of shorter work weeks as believing in the "lump of labor fallacy" is not the same thing as calling them what you attribute to him. Sorry to be so picky.rosserjb@jmu.eduhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09300046915843554101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post-10965971593540687082009-12-22T16:14:41.192-05:002009-12-22T16:14:41.192-05:00Trucker,
Keynes was about as far from being a gol...Trucker,<br /><br />Keynes was about as far from being a gold bug as any economist ever. He famously described gold as a "barbrous relic."<br /><br />Walker,<br /><br />Umm, you are criticizing "name callling"?rosserjb@jmu.eduhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09300046915843554101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4900303239154048192.post-6290282924990660162009-12-22T13:23:36.536-05:002009-12-22T13:23:36.536-05:00You may have arrived at the point where you must a...You may have arrived at the point where you must admit that economists are not interested in anything that will detract from their innate bias toward production and greed. The "lump of labor fallacy" and the fallacy of the fallacy is a technical detail that has been brushed under the carpet for many years and is nothing but a small bump in the road on the way to the next dog and pony show. Not even the latter day reality that rebukes EMH seems to phase them. All they do is circle the wagons with a few of the smarter ones dividing off into a Keynesian circle.<br /><br />And both camps play into the Hayakian stupidity of more stuff and more stuff and no respect for more leisure and less toil. The environmental movement seems to be phasing them ever so slightly, but they don't connect the dots regarding leisure as the cure for global warming. Attempting to move this hulk of blind stupidity with a plea to technical correctness is a lost cause. The "lump of labor" thing (regardless of truth) is a nit that will have no impact in the broader canvas while this lust for power remains the hand that feeds the economics world. <br /><br />Keynes was a gold bug trapped by his tie to "borrowing" and repayment. The fact is that money is created from the ether and blown into the US economy by the US government. All the other nations of the world then trade their stuff for the dollars and use the dollars to buy T-bills. I have no idea why anyone would want a T-Bill, but there it is. When we figure out why they work so hard, sending hula hoops and brake rotors to the Americans so as to stuff their mattresses with T-Bills, we may discover how to lessen the hours of work.TheTruckerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10346127768102862741noreply@blogger.com