Wednesday, August 5, 2020

Team Trump on Susan Rice as Biden’s Running Mate

Next to Joe Biden, Susan Rice may be the most qualified person to lead our nation back from the utter disaster created by our allowing Donald Trump to pretend to be our President. So what is this from the camp of the Liar-in-Chief? Trump’s aides and allies accuse Rice — without delving too deeply into the evidence — of helping cover up crimes for two of the president’s favorite foils, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, making her just the kind of "deep state" villain who could fire up his MAGA base. “She is absolutely our No. 1 draft pick,” a Trump campaign official said. I suspect Team Trump fears who Rice would be in a national campaign so they doing a classic head fake. Don’t fall for it. Dr. Rice has committed no crimes and everyone (except for those MAGA hat wearers whose brains have rotted by now) knows it. What’s this? Four years earlier, she faced allegations that she misled Americans when she announced on national TV that the fatal attacks in Benghazi, Libya, occurred after spontaneous protests in response to an anti-Muslim video. That was determined to be inaccurate. On Monday night, Tucker Carlson, the Fox News host influential in Trump’s orbit, opened his show with a lengthy diatribe about Rice and her role in the 2012 Benghazi raid — strikingly similar to the attack Republicans lodged against Clinton in the 2016 race against Trump. This Benghazi BS is false so why highlight the rant from the racist liar Tucker Carlson? And unfortunately this Politico story continues with one false allegation after another. The real beef seems to be that Dr. Rice ably points out the many failures of the Trump Administration, which gets Team Trump all “energized”. So what? Democrats are supposed to cut and run when Team Trump goes off on one of their patented attack campaigns? Give me a break. The Republican rants about the lack of resources for our ambassadors in Benghazi were always pure hypocrisy Leahy said: “House Republicans have wasted millions of taxpayer dollars on a partisan exercise. For that, and for blaming the Administration for failing to protect our diplomats, without acknowledging their own efforts to slash resources for embassy security, is pure, distilled hypocrisy.” BEFORE BENGHAZI: After Republicans took over the House in January 2011 -- before the Benghazi attack -- they proposed deep cuts for U.S. embassy operations and State Department programs across the board, including for diplomatic and embassy facility security. The House Republican Appropriations Committee cut $1 billion from the embassy security budget proposed by the Obama Administration in the two years prior to the Benghazi attack The Republican attacks back then were based on lies to shift responsibility from their own failures. Let the Republicans try this again and just keep reminding people about the true reasons for our current failures – the dishonesty and incompetence of Team Trump.

19 comments:

Fred C. Dobbs said...

Susan Rice is a hawk. (Or just 'pragmatic'?)

The Real Rice

New Republic - May 13, 2011

... In 2007, Rice and (Samantha) Power were among the first high-profile backers of the Obama campaign—adding to the perception that Rice herself also favored an activist foreign policy. But those who know her say she was attracted to Obama’s candidacy first and foremost by his pragmatism. “It says something about her desire to be on what she believes is the right side analytically,” says Richard Clarke, who worked with Rice on the National Security Council. ...

(Should Biden win, with Rice at his side - in any capacity really - that
would pose problems for certain autocrats abroad, no? Trump had best be
proactive about keeping her 'in her place', outside of guv'mint.)

islm said...

NSA is a tiny advisory office with one seat among dozens. Look what they fumbled over Ukraine gate!

No one wants 'education' or 'economic' or 'environmental', or banking regulation, or military procurement/spending, space...?

"Next to Joe Biden, Susan Rice may be the most qualified ".

A very low bar but look at the 'field'!

In Biden's case this statement is dated by maybe 4 years.

[Not Condi] Rice is a stretch! Benghazi is a foil, All that shows is the lock step to hide Obama and Clinton mistakes. What US contract spec operators were doing in Benghazi was successfully buried.

I think 360 requests to unmask Trump associates will play much louder.

Then Durham! Bringing in a Obama NSA vet will be interesting.

Pence is no slouch, and he can run with the Russiagate cabal from Nov 2016.

I see no career for Biden or any democrat with their cancel culture and interpreting 'peaceful assembly' widely enough to burn Starbucks and blind law enforcement officers.

[Not Condi] Rice may be better than the rest but that is not saying much.

Orangemen bad is no reason...... to vote democrat.

rosserjb@jmu.edu said...

I have made it clear in several places that I consider three of the widely noted VP candidates for Biden to be "presidential," and I would be fine with any of them: Rice, Warren, or Harris. However, all show know that each of them comes with "baggage."

In the case of Rice, pgl is right that the whole Benghazi thing is just a stinking pile of hypocritical nonsense. But then so was the slam on Hillary about her emails, given that Colin Powell had committed far more illegal things than she has with his emails, and where were all the investigations of him, not to mention the GOP even mentioning that. And indeed, unlike the fantasy of MH over on Econbrowser, swing voters might well be swayed by an intense, if lying, GOP campaign against Rice on Benghazi, just as they were by the intense and lying campaign against HRC on her emails in 2016.

That said, the more serious matters have been brought up by Dana Milbank in this past Sunday's WaPo. I am not going to get into any of that, but anybody who thinks that Rice is somehow head and shoulders over both Warren and Harris really needs to look at that column.

I admire your enthusiasm on this, pgl, and as I have noted elsewhere, I have met Rice and was definitely impressed by her.

Not Trampis said...

Most qualified???

Tel me what positions she has won in elections?

She is a very talented lady no doubt but has NO electoral experience

Fred C. Dobbs said...

'NSA is a tiny advisory office with one seat among dozens.'

I assume you mean 'NSC' - National Security Council.

NSA, the agency, is anything but tiny.

Fred C. Dobbs said...

Progressives dislike 'hawks', as much as
they dislike 'centrists' and 'pragmatists'.

Much wrangling remains before the ticket is set.

rosserjb@jmu.edu said...

There was a column in today's Washington Post by Karen Tumulty arguing that whomever Biden picks, and it seems to be pretty much down to Rice vs Harris at this point probably, they will be on the receiving end of a massive misogynistic barrage from the Trump campaign, with probably most of it either lies or prejudiced misrepresentations, and that those who want Trump out need to prepare to rally around the pick to support them, and as I have made clear I have no problem supporting either of those, or Warren, even though I know each has "baggage," vulnerabilities that may have some validity but that the Trump gang will blow all out of proportion over and over.

Fred C. Dobbs said...

Hmmm. Since Biden has committed to
choosing a female running-mate, it's
a forgone conclusion that he will be
the target of misogynistic attacks.

So, I guess Biden should choose
someone of another gender?

One who would not be subject
to attacks from Trump and
his acolytes.

Fred C. Dobbs said...

Some have suggested that a different
Rice would be a more ideal Biden VP.

That is, Condoleezza Rice.

Oprah Winfrey might
be a better choice, as
log as we are spitballing.

Fred C. Dobbs said...

(Is John Roberts acceptable? Suppose Biden were to pick
Roberts for VP, if he were to resign as Chief Justice.
Would GOP approval be inevitable?)

Pence’s harsh words for Roberts

NY Times - August 6

Vice President Mike Pence assailed Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. on Wednesday as a “disappointment to conservatives,” criticizing him for siding with liberals in several major decisions during his Supreme Court tenure and arguing that re-electing Mr. Trump was critical to ensuring a strong conservative majority on the court. ...

pgl said...


Fred C. Dobbs said...
'NSA is a tiny advisory office with one seat among dozens.'

I assume you mean 'NSC' - National Security Council.

NSA, the agency, is anything but tiny.

August 6, 2020 at 7:51 AM

Thanks for correcting the Russian bot known as ilsm. As far as the rest of his rant - it is time to ignore such pathetic stupidity from our usual troll.

Not Trampis said...

Hey Matey,
what about the fact rice has NEVER run for political office.

That would be a VERY big risk.

Make her his Secretary of State

rosserjb@jmu.edu said...

There is an NSA that is an agency, the large and powerful National Security Agency, and then there is an NSA that is a person, or position actually, one that Susan Rice held under President Obama, the National Security Adviser, who also happens to chair the NSC, the National Security Council, which is in the White House, whereas the NSA is in the DOD, based at Fort Meade in Maryland.

Does that help straighten out this mumbling confusion here?

Fred C. Dobbs said...

The Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs (APNSA), commonly referred to as the National Security Advisor (NSA) or at times informally termed the NSC Advisor, is a senior aide in the Executive Office of the President, based at the West Wing of the White House, who serves as the chief in-house advisor to the president of the United States on national security issues. ...

The National Security Advisor participates in meetings of the National Security Council (NSC) and usually chairs meetings of the Principals Committee of the NSC with the Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense. ... (Wikipedia)

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The National Security Agency (NSA) is a national-level intelligence agency
of the United States Department of Defense, under the authority of the
Director of National Intelligence. ... (Wikipedia)

Fred C. Dobbs said...

Kamala Harris

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as his running mate

via @BostonGlobe - August 11

WASHINGTON — Presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden on Tuesday tapped Senator Kamala Harris of California to be his running mate, elevating the first Black woman in US history to that role ahead of next week’s party convention.

Biden announced the long-awaited decision via Twitter, calling Harris “a fearless fighter for the little guy and one of the country’s finest public servants.” His campaign said the two will deliver remarks together Wednesday in Wilmington, Del.

Harris, the former attorney general of California and the only Black woman in the US Senate, clashed with Biden on the issue of race during her short-lived presidential run last year. But she later shot to the top of his vice presidential list as he vowed to pick a woman and underscored the importance of experience.

Harris, 55, makes for a barrier-breaking pick at a time when many voters are demanding change and equality for Black people amid extensive civil rights protests around the country. She would be the first woman or Black person to become vice president if elected, and Democratic activists have long pushed Biden to pick a woman of color in a nod to the party’s most loyal constituency. ...

(An excellent choice by Joe Biden.)

Fred C. Dobbs said...

In a new national poll, Biden maintains a 10-point lead over Trump

NY Times - August 11

A new national poll released Tuesday shows Mr. Biden maintaining a 10-point lead over Mr. Trump, with just 4 percent of voters remaining undecided.

The poll, conducted by Monmouth University, showed Mr. Biden garnering the support of 51 percent of registered voters and Mr. Trump earning 41 percent. A small share of support went to third-party candidates and the rest were undecided.

Mr. Biden’s lead was about the same as he had in a late-June survey by the same pollster, in which Mr. Biden was ahead of Mr. Trump by 12 percentage points. ...

Fred C. Dobbs said...

Stock-market ETFs edge higher as Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as running mate in race for White House

Market Watch - August 11

(However, at the close...)

S&P 500: 3,333.69 -26.78 (-0.80%)
Dow 30: 27,686.91 -104.53 (-0.38%)
Nasdaq: 10,782.82 -185.53 (-1.69%)

(It is what it is.)

Fred C. Dobbs said...

(Making up for yesterday, a fairly
spectacular rise on the Street today.)

S&P 500: 3,380.35 +46.66 (+1.40%)
Dow 30: 27,976.69 +289.78 (+1.05%)
Nasdaq: 11,012.24 +229.42 (+2.13%)

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